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you do know what single elimination means, right?
you do know what single elimination means, right?
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kjdadada wrote:From that wiki page anason:
American professional team sports have a "regular season" (group tournament) acting as qualification for the "post season" or "playoffs" (single-elimination tournament)
Do you know what Wikipedia is? why this page would say one thing ( American professional team sports) and the stupid one you pasted (only NFL) says something else?
Under your definition tennis or volleyball can NEVER have a single or double elimination tournament, yet every major tournament in their sports are considered as such. its common sense. but, you did read it on wiki, so ...
ANason21 wrote:
In tennis, even exhibitions are played in matches of multiple games and sets. No one has ever played one game and said okay, that's it. That's conventional, so why would their tournaments be any different? And if you lose a single match, you are out. Hence, single elimination.
kjdadada wrote:ANason21 wrote:
In tennis, even exhibitions are played in matches of multiple games and sets. No one has ever played one game and said okay, that's it. That's conventional, so why would their tournaments be any different? And if you lose a single match, you are out. Hence, single elimination.
this is all I was looking for.
Explain to me in tennis how is a match winner decided?
Thanks.
swiftDee52 wrote:Anason **** off. Dork. Everyone gets it. No one cares.
ANason21 wrote:
Not that wikipedia is authoritative, but it states that "Of the big four American sports leagues, only the National Football League uses [a single-elimination tournament] for its postseason."
Who needs to hit the books?
skizzzer wrote:This is a stupid argument.
ANason21, you're right that wikipedia is not authoritative, because it's publicly sourced and publicly edited, but in that same article you're quoting from,ANason21 wrote:
Not that wikipedia is authoritative, but it states that "Of the big four American sports leagues, only the National Football League uses [a single-elimination tournament] for its postseason."
Who needs to hit the books?
it states in the "best-of" section, "The "best-of" formats refers to a head-to-head competition where the two competitors compete to first win the majority of the games allotted to win the "series". If a competitor wins a majority of the games, the remaining games may be discarded. This is a modification of the single elimination tournament to allow more matches to be held."
In other words, a "best-of" series is a modified single elimination tournament.
If you go to the Wikipedia Single-elimination tournament page, Single-elimination tournaments are defined as "a type of elimination tournament where the loser of each bracket is immediately eliminated from winning the championship or first prize in the event."
The same page goes on to cite the final 3 rounds of the 2008 French Open - Women Singles for tennis as an example of a a Single-elimination tournament. Tennis, as we all know, consists of matches that are either played to a best-of 3 or best-of 5 games, depending on if it's men or women playing.
So if you want to be pedantic, this tournament is by definition a best-of 3, single elimination tournament. Note that "best-of 3" comes before "single elimination" because it is modifying the structure of the tournament.
As an aside, if you're looking for credible sources you're better off sticking to your post-secondary classes because who the fuck is going to write a research article on "The structural and semantic differences between "best-of" and "single-elimination" tournaments." Credible sources are important when you're referring to shit that matters, such as research papers, news, and apparently, online arguments on a hockey forum.
Fuck this stupid shit everyone knew what kj meant when he said single-elimination - you were just looking to start a fight. Thanks for wasting 5 minutes out of my precious, precious time at work.
ANason21 wrote:
I don't know, maybe the page that lists all the different types of tournaments instead of the one with one-offs about single-elimination tournaments. Perhaps I shouldn't have brought wikipedia into this, as it is always easy to find (or insert) conflicting information on there.
ANason21 wrote:Here's a more "authoratative" source for you fools:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=900001&download=yes
The very first paragraph of the introduction distinguishes between single-elimination, double-elimination, and best-of-series tournaments.
But whatever, you kids know everything.
CastroGstar wrote:The definition of double elimination means that you can lose once and still be eligible to compete.
If a win/loss is determined by a single game then once you lose one game you are still eligible to compete. If a win/loss is decided by a best of series then you could potentially lose one best of series and still be in the tournament.
Why is this so hard to understand?
kjdadada wrote:ANason21 wrote:Here's a more "authoratative" source for you fools:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=900001&download=yes
The very first paragraph of the introduction distinguishes between single-elimination, double-elimination, and best-of-series tournaments.
But whatever, you kids know everything.
Sorry I moved the thread while you were digging for sources.. Yes, I told you that you were right which is why you obviously ignored my tennis post and found another source. And edit wiki pages.. I agree with Kyle. well played.
kjdadada wrote:lol. so. We agree it's a single elimination tournament that uses the best-of format? So your post asking me if I knew what that was, I was correct in saying yes.
Very good. I enjoyed it too.
ANason21 wrote:
What happens when you modify something? Does it stay the same or does it change? Just curious.
ChiTownMenace wrote:for fuck sake. 10 minutes of my life wasted skimming this waste of a thread. why oh why did i even bother reading this steaming pile of shit that no one cares about?
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